Originally published at a denizen's entertainment. You can comment here or there.

[abrupt post beginning because previous topic changes 'enough' here to warrant separation]

Perhaps I will find out if I can reconcile those, since last night (two nights ago, now) when I could not sleep I started work on a new story and slowly realised this could be the cross-genre erotic work I've been saying I'm unable to write.

The idea I started writing with was a woman who becomes possessed by a water spirit or minor deity - I expect the distinction will be unclear in the story too. As I thought about this woman, Meredith, she turned out to be a detective, a private detective even, and I started wondering if I could make a proper mystery story of it too. It seemed suddenly very doable.

What I started writing opened with Meredith and her friends taking a day out on the beach to catch up with each other. For the story[1] I want it to be now I need to extend back from that point. Meredith needs to be established as her own character, her own personality, her own sexuality so she isn't just 'someone who gets possessed by a water spirit'. I need to establish her as a detective and give her a mystery to solve (probably at least one large and one small mystery)) so we'll have that for an 'A' plot and 'Meredith deals with her body and mind being inhabited by a water spirit' as a 'B' plot.

I have been considering having Meredith be a former librarian, since sometimes people with library degrees do branch out into private research and investigation but I need to add something else because I want her in an on-site potential action role too. Inclined to give her a working, non-romantic partner because I think a two person firm might be more interesting, so I need to work out who this person is and what ey does too. I also need to arrange so that this story doesn't step on the toes of the jedi detective series I've been wanting to do (more on that, but not much, if I ever get my next 'real' writing in progress post out of limbo).

There is some appeal to having this water spirit be the only magical thing in the world, mainly because it seems like something a bit different to do, like interstellar science fiction without FTL anything. I doubt I will since there's a lot of fun to be had otherwise (vampires, frex, combine a great deal of criminal mystery potential with a lot of erotic potential, and if I ever have an idea suited for that, this would be the venue for it [this, or a Magic Club story if I ever get around to those]), but I want to make some decisions relatively early. If magical things exist openly instead of secretly or not at all then I probably want one of Meredith's friends to be a professional magician and have it non-obvious that this isn't stage magic until after her encounter with the spirit (whose name is Maris, and I don't know why I've been dancing around that until now).

Since this story has been pulling some strong appeal for me to weave a few stories together into a Unified Erotic Setting I am definitely leaning toward other magical things existing but being largely rare. Easy to put some broad strokes on. Soft science fantasy setting; Meredith was never living on our Earth, but always at least a fictionalised version with fictional locations, easy enough to make that a nice colony world but there's no Earth at the bottom anyway. Travel to strange new worlds, make contact with local spirits and gods, negotiate terms of interaction or settlement. Potentially Winter Gift and the unwritten Emerald Green take place in this setting's past. Don't know setting's position on non-human people who aren't creatures of magic (i.e. faeries, spirits or deities like our Maris), probably depends on what Emerald Green demands. So I'd better do something about that soon.

I need to sort out what sort of investigator Meredith is, and what sort my unnamed jedi detective is, and hopefully arrange for them to have some interesting divergence in style. They both seem to have a similar set of tools (albeit one with The Force and one with maybe super database searching skills) but neither having much in the way of forensics. Trying to come up with a good title got a lot of noirish suggestions from Ami, so maybe a noir or hardboiled sort of style might work well. Or my imagined version of what they are, since I have regrettably not read much in that mode. A personal, strongly emotional style maybe feeds into intense sex scenes which would be a plus, and contrast well with the other series which makes another plus, if I can pull it off and sustain it. Worth a shot.

As for the rest of Meredith, I know she loves climbing, she has a great deal of tactile sensuousness, especially concerning her feet and what she walks on, and she is a switch. Probably, given the foregoing, the sort who would order the person she's topping to flog her in precisely the right way, as a non-exclusive example of something ordinary to her. What about her other enjoyments, she's been a librarian, what does she read? I suspect Meredith enjoys mystery fiction for a lot of the same reason she's a professional investigator: enjoyment of solving puzzles. I wonder if she likes physical puzzles too? I think she has a stable relationship with someone who subs to her, and attends one or two local clubs where she mostly tops and sometimes bottoms. So, need to detail the who and how of her personal relationships early on too. And that gives us something of a 'C' plot now: how Meredith's personal life and relationships cope with the strain of the A and B lines.

Tempted to have Meredith's professional magician friend be the other partner in her firm, but that may push the story in a more magic-heavy direction than I am wanting so far. Consider dropping that friend entirely.

That's about where we are at so far.

[1] Is it a story? There's no plot yet, no end or beginning, just a small cloud of concepts. Eventually a plot will come along. One usually does.

Originally published at a denizen's entertainment. You can comment here or there.

Recently I posted a piece called In Sleep which seems a good illustration of what I have been trying to say about finding erotica incompatible with other genres.

I labelled the story as containing 'unsolicited sex', but were those events to occur in a story of a different genre, or to actually occur, I would have labelled them rape. I think that points neatly to the source of the genre conflict I perceive in myself.

The way I do it erotica is possibly a subgenre itself of speculative fiction. Not because I consistently include magical elements, but because for the stories to work they often posit characters functioning under a different social and moral / ethical framework. The conflict with other genres comes in there, because in erotic stories we have characters acting and reacting in a way that I think wouldn't quite ring true in a different story; they aren't realistic characters (or maybe a better word would be 'convincing'?) for the purposes of differently genred stories and my impression is a lot of genre fiction relies on the characters being believable or at least fitting the expectations of that genre to sell readers on the story.

Oh, but there's an opening. If I can have the characters inhabiting the other conceits of the story and setting believably enough, would that be able to keep them from falling into this erotic uncanny valley I fear? I worry I am being unclear, and that probably means I do not myself understand what I am trying to say. So you get repetition while I sort myself out.

Maybe there is no problem, or none that approaches insurmountable. Why, after all, should there not be stories where characters operate in a relatively bizarre social and metaphysical framework concerning what behaviours are unremarkable, or moral, not-traumatic, while at they explore strange new worlds, or fight crime, or combat an existential threat?

One thing I haven't yet marked is how dependent this is on me, on my head and what's in it and how and what I write. Someone else may write different subjects and styles and have no trouble integrating that with different genres. So at least in part it seems more of a specific issue than the general way I've been talking about it so far.

Okay, I think I found an explanatory approach that has clarity. Not all, but a significant fraction of the erotica I write falls into the category described in fanfic (and presumably other) communities as 'dubious consent'. For the purpose of me talking about it, that means at least one party doesn't consent to sex, or maybe even know it is happening, yet there is no trauma, it isn't treated as rape, and everything works out happily at the end. That isn't how it works in real life, unless maybe you have prior negotiation and safewords. In real life that sort of thing is rape and a pretty effective way of inducing trauma and PTSD in someone (or fantasy of the 'has magic' kind and impossible). I think it is dangerous, and akin to writing stories in which torture is an effective and safe means of obtaining information, because that sort of thing follows and feeds into misconceptions and misinformation surrounding rape and sexual assault, an area that's already confused enough in the public consciousness. That's probably why I often have difficulty reading similar things written by other people, because I need to know it is a fiction game and not something the writer believes, and why I have especial difficulty with it when it isn't of the magic-having fantasy sort.

Normally when I write I try to treat what happens in the story seriously. That's the part that comes into conflict with the dub-con game, and why I'd probably need to treat erotica as a form of SF to cross it with anything else. That, and my fiction tends to be quite asexual otherwise.

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